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Three cultures of Facebook

On Facebook, I've got, broadly speaking, three "kinds" of friends:  academic lawyers, academic philosophers, and regular people (the latter category including some lawyers, relatives, neighbors etc.).   The FB habits of these three groups are strikingly different. 

Regular people use FB the way I thought it was supposed to be used (and the reason I joined):  to post photos of kids and pets, recent vacations, occasionally a bit of personal or professional news.   Academic philosophers do a little of that, and so do academic lawyers, but for most of them, that's only a small portion of their posting.

Academic philosophers increasingly treat FB like a blog, a forum for pontification about everything from real politics to academic politics.  Until I realized I could "unfollow" people without "unfriending" them, I dumped a fair number of academic philosophers because their pontifications were so tiresome.  My advice:  get a blog!  Anyone who wants to read me pontificating, can come here, but I don't impose it on my FB friends. 

Academic lawyers do a fair bit of pontificating too, though not nearly as much as the academic philosophers, and theirs is almost always confined to real politics.  The really revolting aspect of some academic philosopher behavior on FB is its "high school with tenure" quality:  back-stabbing, preening and posturing, endless displays of righteousness and "pearl clutching", faux solidarity with all the oppressed and "wretched of the academy" (less often the actual wretched of the earth), and so on.   An awful lot of academic philosophers on FB come across as teenagers desperately seeking approval and affirmation.  I've managed to "unfriend" most of the offenders, but it was really a kind of depressing and sickening spectacle while it lasted.

Why don't academic lawyers on FB engage in this kind of tawdry behavior?  Academic lawyers, having gone to professional school and often worked as professionals in practice, may just be more mature as a group (though I also suspect there is a selection effect at work, i.e., those academic philosophers most prone to this behavior are drawn to FB).  But another part of the explanation, I suspect, is that academic philosophers are more powerless than academic lawyers:  many of the latter are actively engaged in policy work, law reform, and litigation on the issues they care about.  All academic philosophers can do is posture and preen on FB.

But what's really interesting is how different the actual lawyers on FB are:  there's none of the tawdry displays of virtue and righteousness, and there's hardly any of the pontificating.  The explanation there is, I think, pretty simple:  they are way too busy to indulge themselves this way.  The same goes for most of the other regular people I'm friends with on FB.  FB, alas, seems to be evidence that academics do have way too much time on their hands.

ADDENDUM:  Reader S. Wallerstein writes with an interesting observation:

To survive as a lawyer (for better or worse,  there are lots of lawyers in my family), you need a certain sense of reality and that sense of reality generally makes people less self-righteous.  To survive as a philosopher, from what I've seen, you need a high IQ, but a high-IQ, without a sense of reality, may even make people more self-righteous since they feel entitled, due to their superior intelligence, to throw the first and the second and the third stone.  Lawyers, while rarely self-righteous or sanctimonious, can be excessively pragmatic and downright opportunistic.  

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18 responses to “Three cultures of Facebook”

  1. I underwent fusion many years ago so that I have a personal FB page and a separate philosophy/academic FB page. I would recommend this.

  2. Robert Hockett

    Like. Smiley emoticon.

  3. Different people are put off by and interested in different things that people post on Facebook. Apart from the relatively small number of my FB friends whom I know at all well personally, I'm not that interested in their "photos of kids and pets, recent vacations, occasionally a bit of personal or professional news". Are you? Rather, I go to FB for the links, for Chris Brooke's discussion threads on British politics, for Alex Douglas's posts on modern monetary theory, and the like. I suspect my own posts fall into your category of "get a blog! Anyone who wants to read me pontificating, can come here, but I don't impose it on my FB friends." A lot of what I post — e.g., on the USS pension scheme or the UK equivalent of tenure — is directly relevant only to UK academics. But I'm pleasantly surprised by the number of people who read these posts and have received a fair amount of positive feedback. If I could create a blog that was as widely read as yours, perhaps I would post these there rather than on FB. But if I posted on my own blog, people who have found my FB posts useful would not read them there, since most blogs go unread. I also find the comments threads of blogs problematic: if unmoderated, the comments can be pretty awful, and moderation makes it much harder to have an exchange in anything approaching real time, which I like having with my FB friends.

    BL COMMENT: I need to get some of your FB friends!

  4. scumoftheearth in Denver

    Whereas you, with too much time on your hands, do all of your tawdry behavior on your blog instead of on FB? I'm not sure why that's better, even though you claim it is.

    BL COMMENT: It appears you don't know what the word "tawdry" means.

  5. "The really revolting aspect of some academic philosopher behavior on FB is its "high school with tenure" quality: back-stabbing, preening and posturing, endless displays of righteousness and "pearl clutching", faux solidarity with all the oppressed and "wretched of the academy" (less often the actual wretched of the earth), and so on."

    Putting aside how revolting it is (though I do find much of it noxious and fake), who will deny the general phenomenon? I'm serious. I feel like if this basic description (I love the term 'pearl clutching'!) doesn't at least roughly accurately describe some significant amount of academic philosophical behavior on fb, then nothing is real and I'm in the Matrix. Does anyone think this is not a real thing? And then for explanation–does anyone think that virtue- and loyalty-signaling isn't a large part of the explanation? I'm really asking.

  6. I'm not sure that this practice is specific to social media; rather, social media is one venue, though now the predominant one, in which to signal, express "solidarity," etc. In person (or in some interviews I've come across) it's the same: you're supposed to "call out" ideological deviants; refrain from criticizing "allies;" express your unwillingness to engage with ideologically suspect materials (philosophical but also artistic, literary, etc.), and more. Of course, social media has, in my view, lead to a tremendous amount of narcissism and posturing generally (most intensely among relatively well-off "millennials"). But that in itself is insufficient to explain why philosophers have especially succumbed to this bullshit.

    So perhaps the question is: what is it about the dialectical norms of (a subset) of professional philosophers that has changed, such that the dialectical norms of lawyers and law professors now look appealing by comparison? Powerlessness and spare time seem like plausible causal explanations, though have academic philosophers, as a class, ever been powerful workhorses?

  7. I believe Professor Leiter is forgetting that many of us are unwilling to wade waist-deep into what he often so colorfully describes as "the bowels of cyberspace" (the task of which we, gratefully, leave to him). Instead, we are content merely to dip our toes in the muck by reaching out to family, friends, and acquaintances with issues we care about. Those of us who first encountered Facebook in high school and college might also be more adept at navigating the ever-evolving privacy and notification settings of Facebook, which some of the older generations perhaps find more mysterious. I would argue that there is no set purpose for Facebook, and I believe it is perfectly acceptable to have reasoned discourse with friends and family about topics that are near and dear to one's heart. A blog is a poor ersatz for the interactions had on Facebook, and vice-versa; the functions are different. And the function of the Facebook is much more malleable than that of a blog. I do not find this sort of behavior particularly problematic, nor do I find the problem endemic among a specific subset of my friends (including the ones who are busy with 'high-powered' law and banking jobs).

  8. Berit Brogaard

    I think Matt DeStefano's comment on this post (on Facebook) is spot on. I hope I am not violating any privacy issues by including it here.

    Matt DeStefano:
    "… I worry that using [FB] the way professional philosophers often use it leads to exacerbated group polarization (I know Berit and you have both blogged about this). It would also be interesting to see whether FB gets more or less people outside of certain social circles involved in these discussions. My guess is that it probably excludes more people that either aren't 'friends' with those in that circle or don't have FB at all, compared to a blog where anybody aware of its existence can interact. That seems worrying as well."

    BL COMMENT: Matt said it was OK, thanks.

  9. I agree. I see it as a kind of multi-blog, some of which is good and some of which is mundane. Just like life — and philosophy!

    BL COMMENT: Hmmm, in real life, I don't come across the tawdry preening and posturing that makes up a chunk of FB among academic philosophers (less so now that I've gotten rid of the precious "pearl clutchers").

  10. Brian: You have to admit that some of your criticism of "academic philosophers" is based on your failure to fully grasp the "following" vs. "friending" distinction. Also, I don't see folks as trying to "impose" their views on my FB friends, even among those I follow. I doubt my Facebook friends are saying, "I've just got to get through this knee-jerk liberal critique of Trump — even though the arguments are as old as stale bread — because it's got Joe's stamp of approval." At least, I hope they are not saying that. Look at the heading and the blip; if you like it, read more; if not, move on. What is wrong with this way of approaching FB, or thinking that folks should approach it in this way?

    BL COMMENT: I suspect we have had different exposure to philosophy sub-cultures on FB. When I go on FB, I really don't want to waste my time with the "posturing, preening wankers" to quote a category I use on the blog. It's not just that: there's something creepy about such people, I don't want to be either FB or real-life friends with them. If you don't mind them, you are a more tolerant fellow than I am!

  11. I think it has more to do with selectivity. I don't read any crap in great detail. I gloss over it and take notes if it seems "politically" important. Plus, I'd say I have quite a few FB academic philosophers who avoid the crap and offer something better. You are one of them! Laurie Paul and Justin Caouette (just to name 2) also regularly give me things to think about. I could name others.

  12. Some Other Person

    I suppose it's hard to resist the instant, semi-private audience that facebook seems to offer. Airing one's views in full public view requires a lot more effort, confidence and time. Worries about internet hate campaigns are not unjustified, especially if your views are controversial. And then of course there is the worry of what might be even worse than being hated: being ignored.

    Overall, I am not surprised that people sometimes turn to facebook for cathartic purposes.

  13. Stefan Sciaraffa

    I'm inclined to distinguish between those who habitually pontificate and moralistically posture about politics and other issues of the day on Facebook from those who tend to discuss and opine on the same subject matter sans the pontification and moralistic posturing. In short, I'm annoyed by the former set of folks (who isn't?) and tend to unfollow them, whereas I look forward to posts from the latter set. Analogously, I enjoy discussing politics and the like with real life friends, and I wouldn't want to relegate my conversations with them to kids, pets, and the occasional professional accomplishment (though I am interested in those topics too!).

    As an aside, my Facebook community comprises three main groups–my relatives and high school friends from Texas, philosophy friends, and friends I've made as an adult outside the philosophy community. I'm pretty certain that the first group suffers the highest percentage of pontificators and moralizers (from the right), philosophy friends rank second on this score (pontificating/moralizing from the left, save for the occasional libertarian prone to ritualistic condemnations of the unenlightened and economically illiterate masses), and the friends I've made as an adult rank third.

    As far as my own posts go, a pretty high percentage of them are on politics and such, and some probably have crossed the pontificating/posturing line, but I don't post all that often, and I don't think I'm a serial line-crosser. If I weren't such an earnest and hard worker, I might consider starting a blog! 😉

  14. Could be worse. Some of my facebook friends are journalists – forget about the pontificating, just imagine the shameful self-promotion of such people.

  15. One other pressure affecting what practicing lawyers can say is that they have to worry about offending clients, supervisors, colleagues, judges, etc. No lawyer in the private sector has anything like the job security that a tenured professor has; even the most successful law firm partner generally cannot afford to alienate his/her most important clients.

  16. Anthony the dropout

    From what I've seen of Facebook, and from having been in academia myself for several years (I had nearly completed my doctoral thesis in moral philosophy before dumping the whole thing and turning to medical school), BL's remarks here are a good reminder of why I quit. The "endless displays of righteousness" had always made me want to spit blood, as did the general impression I got that too many people enter academia as a way of escaping the real world rather than as a way of getting a better understanding of it.

    As for how to deal with Facebook, I would like to propose a simple solution that has always and continues to work perfectly for me: stay away from it. Make and meet real friends, in real time and in the flesh. As far as I can see, pretty much all social media if not worthy of the description social, as it descends too easily into facile posturing and right-on preening that makes not a single difference to the real-world problems that so many academics claim so loudly to care about. Virtual solidarity is more often than not just cheap, self-promoting bullshit, which is probably why it has become so popular with "social justice warriors" of the philosophical variety.

  17. I wonder, too, about the relation between moral argumentation on facebook (staying neutral on the extent to which it's an instance of moralizing, pontificating, or some other pejorative term) and actual moral character. It seems to me that most of the philosophers I know who I really morally admire (or at least think have a lot of moral integrity) either (a) aren't on facebook or on it in name only, or (b) don't post anything political, or (c) only post political things relatively infrequently, and then only about (generally non-academic) issues in which they're deeply personally invested. There are some exceptions, but on average the people on my facebook feed who go in for moral argumentation tend to be less morally impressive in real life than the ones who don't.

    Still, I would be surprised if my facebook feed is especially representative, and wouldn't be at all surprised if my memory is selective. So I'm curious whether others have similar impressions.

  18. Interesting. I've found that there are some substantive contributions to online discussions of political or moral situations in the profession and elsewhere. But almost all the posters of quality tend to remain anonymous, which shows they're not in it for the sake of moral preening. That can hardly be coincidental. Also, almost none of the good stuff is posted on Facebook or Twitter.

    There seems to be a reversed Gyges effect here. The genuinely moral profit from anonymity online, since they can make genuinely moral arguments without having to be torn apart for making the points that only the genuinely moral minority would even think of. Meanwhile, those who pursue only sham morality tend to be drawn to social media precisely because of the opportunity it gives for impressing others.

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