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Acceptable and Unacceptable Academic Hiring Practices

Sergio Tenenbaum, a philosopher at the University of Toronto, writes:

As we get close to the American Philosophical Association [Eastern Division Meeting, which is also the hiring convention], I thought it might be worth having a thread on what counts as acceptable or unacceptable practice in the hiring process. Here are some of my views; I’d be curious to know how widely shared they are, and whether others have their own pet peeves.

(1)     Having job candidates stay with Faculty members to save the department a few hotel bills- I think it is completely unacceptable. It leaves the job candidate with no “down time”, and often creates extremely awkward situations.

(2)     Asking about other interviews, etc.-  I also find this unacceptable. The only reason I can see to ask these questions before an offer is made is to check whether one is going after a “hot” job candidate or not. But hiring based on hype is not a very good practice…

(3)     Early junior offers- By that I mean offers that job candidates have to accept or decline before they can be expected to hear from other jobs. When I was in the job market, a few places would fly out job candidates in November, make them offers in December, and give them two weeks to accept or decline. I don’t know if anyone still engages in this practice, but I would put it in the unacceptable column too, since it’s obviously an attempt to force a job candidate to accept a less desirable job.

(4)     Not notifying job candidates in the short list about how the search is developing. I take it that anyone who is interviewed for a job deserves the courtesy of being informed, as soon as possible, that he/she is no longer being considered for a job, or that he/she is still being considered for the job, but an offer has been made to someone else.

(5)     Making job candidates commit before an unconditional offer is made-In a few places, job candidates are made to accept an offer prior to its being approved by the Dean, or Provost, or other members of the higher administration. Often it is a foregone conclusion that the offer will be approved, but still it seems unfair to make a job candidate commit to an offer weeks before the institution commits.

(6)     Interviewing job candidates in hotel rooms- I must confess I have mixed feelings about this one. Hotel suites are obviously preferable, but there’re never enough suites at the APA (and I don’t find the interview tables a very good solution).

Here are my own views on the topics Professor Tenenbaum raises:  (1)  it is obviously better for the job candidate to have "down time," but budgetary realities are budgetary realities; departments that really have to ask candidates to stay with faculty ought to do so with an eye to the issue Professor Tenenbaum raises; (2) finding out where else a candidate is interviewing provides far more information than just "hype":  if it is a candidate a department is keen on, it gives an idea of what the competition will look like (which can affect planning, timing of visits, and so on); knowing that colleagues elsewhere judged the candidate worthy can provide important confirmation of one’s own judgment–selecting job candidates for interview is not a science, and it can be helpful to know that sensible colleagues elsewhere came to a similar (or different, as the case may be) appraisal (on the law teaching market, this kind of information is exchanged all the time); (3)  schools do still engage in this practice, for the obvious strategic reasons–my impression is it generally backfires, in part because of the difficulty of enforcing employment contracts, especially when oral; (4) it really would be desireable if departments were better about this; (5)  such commitments, even if given in writing, to non-existent offers are almost never legally binding, so departments that do this–and I concur with Professor Tenenbaum they are to be condemned for doing so!–are fooling themselves; (6) I have no view on this.

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11 responses to “Acceptable and Unacceptable Academic Hiring Practices”

  1. "4) Not notifying job candidates in the short list about how the search is developing. I take it that anyone who is interviewed for a job deserves the courtesy of being informed, as soon as possible, that he/she is no longer being considered for a job, or that he/she is still being considered for the job, but an offer has been made to someone else."

    Is there any reason not to inform job candidates? It certainly alleviates a ton of stress felt by the candidates, and seems to take at most the few minutes needed to write a brief email.

  2. I think it's worth putting things in stronger terms. If a department interviews a candidate – APA interviews included – or makes any inquiries or requests for further work, then the department should let the candidate know as soon as he or she has been dropped from consideration. Anything less is completely unacceptable. I know of several candidates who have been holding out hope for a job long after it has in fact been offered to someone else. Especically when the candidate doesn't have many other possibilities, it's an absolutely miserable position to be in, and adds to what can already be a quite degrading experience.

    Normally, I think, the reason why unsuccessful candidates are not notified is not that doing so takes too much time, or anything like that. It's just cowardice. When I've brought the issue up with a couple of people, I've been told that they just feel uncomfortable giving bad news.

  3. Simon,
    when the job is offered to someone, that doesn't entail that everyone else is dropped from consideration. The person who got the offer may decline.
    I think one reason candidates may not be told when someone else has been offered the job is that you're more likely to accept if you were the first choice, so the department doesn't want to tell everyone else on the list that they aren't the first choice. I don't say that this is a defensible reason. I think it's obvious that every candidate should be told as soon as someone else has been offered the job.

  4. I agree with Brian, and disagree with Sergio, about (2). The following situation is easy enough to imagine. The department has a budget to fly out three people to campus, and there is a consensus that A and B should be among them, and they are divided between X and Y for the final spot. If you find out that A, B and X all have fifteen APA interviews, and are under serious consideration at schools they would probably choose ahead of yours, that's a good reason to add Y to the final shortlist. It's not at all pleasant to have all of the candidates you look at get snapped up elsewhere. On the other hand, if A and B aren't being looked at much elsewhere, and the department prefers them to X and Y, it is possible to just invite A and B to campus and avoid the expense and difficulty of a campus visit by X or Y that likely wouldn't lead to an offer. But all this turns on having asked around about which interviews people are getting.

    More controversially, I'm not entirely sure using hype as a measure of quality is a bad thing. If X got cut from your department's shortlist because the only philosopher who read her file is completely unsympathetic to her area/style/views etc, and you find out she has fifteen interviews elsewhere, it would in principle be a good idea to look at her file again and possibly see if she's got time for a sixteenth interview. (In practice this is probably impossible.) At the extremes I think some amount of deference to the collective wisdom of the profession is appropriate.

  5. There is a good reason not to constantly inform job candidates where they currently stand in the present day market. One email or five is a relatively small investment in time, but every search at the junior level now involves well over a hundred candidates, and a hundred emails takes a great deal of time even to compile the email list. (We currently have well over three hundred candidates for two positions.)

    The comments also assume that consideration of the feelings of the candidates should be paramount for the departments' search committees. But they have a duty to their institution to hire the best candidate they can for their department, and to use their resources wisely, including their colleagues' time and the institution's money. I understand of course that candidates have so much on the line personally that they tend to discount as relatively negligible the universities' investments on the hiring process, but faculty on search committees and administrators overseeing their budgets and evaluating the results seldom see it that way.

    I agree that "hardball" tactics tend to have a strong downside — the candidate may well feel that if he/she is attractive enough to get an early offer, very likely other schools will be willing to make an offer later, and one never likes to be rushed, especially by strangers who manifestly do not have only one's best interests at heart. But at the junior level offers always come with fairly short deadlines because institutions have to move on to someone else if the answer is negative. Big State School may wish to be considerate of the candidates' desires to accept only the best they can get, but they probably can't afford to wait while their current favorite finds out if Ivy League U or even Big State U 2 will make a better offer in the fulness of time (perhaps after their own current first choices have refused them).

    That's not to deny that courtesy and consideration are extremely important in hiring, or that junior job candidates in particular are vulnerable and search committees should be very cautious in wielding the real (but in the scheme of things rather small) power they have relative to those candidates. But maybe the candidates would feel less put upon by the ways of hiring departments if they realized that the other side is under pressure too, and that they are subject to real constraints in their actions that may not be apparent to the job candidates.

  6. Jamie and Steven,

    Fair enough, but at a minimum:

    1) If you interview someone at the APA (or make a request for more info or work) but decide not to give them a fly-out, you should tell them as soon as that decision gets made. THAT doesn't involve emailing 300 people, or putting off anyone who might yet get the offer.

    2) When a job offer is accepted, so that the job really is no longer available, you should inform everyone who made it to the final stage.

    I've known of several cases in which departments have done neither of these things, and I can't see any excuse.

  7. Simon:
    I fully agree with number 2), and for departments that make a final decision not to ask certain candidates to on-campus interviews I agree with 1). But in our case the number of candidates we can have out is indeterminate and depends on how much of remaining department funds we are willing to spend on the hiring process (as opposed to computer equipment, travel for students and faculty, etc). Typically it is still a live possibility to invite someone else out right up until an offer is accepted.

  8. Simon,
    I thought we were only talking about candidates whom one has already interviewed, or notified that they are on some kind of short list. Although I do think it is not too unreasonable to expect a department to give some kind of response to the 200 applicants who will not be interviewed. (Hmm. I wonder if we do that.)
    I'm worried about Brian W's idea that departments should ask candidates about their other interviews because a candidate with scads of great interviews is a worse bet. What will you (employer) do if the candidate says she won't tell you about her other interviews? If she has lots, she would be stupid to tell you, if she knows your strategy.

  9. If the candidate won't tell me about other interviews, then we won't be off to a very trusting start will we?!

    In any case I wouldn't ask about this kind of thing in the interview, because it seems kind of crass somehow, but I would definitely try and find out whether the people I'm looking at are likely to end up elsewhere. On reflection though Jamie might be right, it would not be good to use that as a means of choosing between X and Y. (For one thing it goes against my view that you should be somewhat deferential to what everyone else thinks.) But using what you know about A and B to determine whether you have to interview others still seems reasonable, and in that case no one has a particularly strong incentive to lie and/or withhold information.

  10. We generally ask people to keep us updated on how things are progressing with their other prospects and to let us know if anything changes that might cause them to need a fast response from us. This is mostly just so that we do not lose a candidate by not acting fast enough. It can at times be relevant to know how fast one has to move to maintain someone as a possible candidate, but it isn't something one wants to push a candidate to reveal if they are not comfortable. The more subtle (I hope) approach of giving them an opening to tell you lets you get the information if they feel comfortable volunteering it. (And if everyone were like Brian in giving deference to buzz, it would be in the interests of candidates to reveal it.)

  11. If a department asks a candidate how many other interviews s/he has, then perhaps the department should first volunteer how many other candidates they are interviewing for the position. If I were a job candidate, and I learned that only 5 other candidates were being interviewed at the APA, I would be much more hopeful that I would to learn that 19 other candidates were being interviewed. I see nothing wrong with this infomation being shared, as long as it is a two way street.

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